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Bill Huffhine

Hey Matt!

Great to hear from you. Hope all is well and that you're enjoying your travels.

I'll give that podcast a listen. My immediate reaction to your thoughts (before listening to the podcast) is that you're exactly right. If you're looking to scripture for examples of the "sermon" you won't find them in Greek rhetorical, sophist style. That style didn't invade the church until later in the third & fourth century as the Greek rhetoriticians began getting saved and bringing their practice into the church.

The "sermons" you find in scripture are just as I shared above as quoted from the book:

It was sporadic.

It was delivered on special occasions in order to deal with specific problems.

It was extemporaneous and without rhetorical structure.

It was most often dialogical (including feedback and interruptions from the listeners).

I'm looking forward to that coffee together. I'm ready when you are. Just say the word.

Matt

Bill,
Glad to see you're still keeping this site active. Hey, I ran across another point of view on Barna's book at http://www.wayofthemasterradio.com/podcast/page/4/ (in case it moves, check out Feb 26, Hour 1's podcast). While I'll agree with your points about what a ton of churches do with their 'sermons' these days in order to keep people happy (and hence meet church budget), it's pretty clear from scripture that it's not just based on greek orators style of presenting. Take a listen and we can possibly talk about it over that cup of coffee (how about this month?) I'm traveling this week and will get in touch with you for some potential date/times. Later! -Matt

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